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Herman Cain on Abortion Within The Context of Rape and Incest


Piers Morgan asked a question about abortion within the specific context of rape and incest:

“But you’ve had children, grandchildren. If one of your female children, grand children was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?”

Herman Cain said the following:

… it comes down to it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.  Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue.

It sounds to me like Cain is saying that within the context of rape and incest, government should stay out of the decision.  Cain gave a nearly identical response to the question of abortion to save the life of the mother, so I wasn’t particularly surprised by this.  Here’s what Cain said on Meet the Press:

MR. GREGORY:  What about abortion?  You want to overturn Roe v. Wade.  Could you support or condone abortion under any exceptions at all?
MR. CAIN:  I believe in life from conception, and I do not agree with abortion under any circumstances.
MR. GREGORY:  Exceptions for rape and incest?
MR. CAIN:  Not for rape and incest because…
MR. GREGORY:  What about life of the mother?
MR. CAIN:  Because if you look at, you look at rape and incest, the, the percentage of those instances is so miniscule that there are other options. If it’s the life of the mother, that family’s going to have to make that decision.
MR. GREGORY:  Mm-hmm.  But you can–would you condone abortion if the life of the mother were…
MR. CAIN:  That family is going to have to make that…
MR. GREGORY:  You won’t render a judgment on that.
MR. CAIN:  That family is going to have to make that decision.

The MSM is presenting this as a sort of schizoid conflict of opinions, and it’s created a firestorm on conservative websites.  What do you think?

Here’s the video with a poll below:





Laissez-Faire Abortionomics

Kermit Gosnell


Liberals have objected vehemently to suggestions of increasing regulatory scrutiny of the abortion industry. Apparently, the cost of sterilizing equipment to ensure that teen victims of forced abortion do not acquire sexually transmitted diseases while having their babies exterminated could potentially reduce abortionists’ obscene profits, putting the whole industry in jeopardy.

Last year, while Dr. Kermit Gosnell was greedily raking in at least $1.8 million at his abortion mill in Philadelphia, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli provided his non-binding opinion on the power of the state to regulate the abortion industry:
It is my opinion that the Commonwealth has the authority to promulgate regulations for facilities in which first trimester abortions are performed as well as for providers of first trimester abortions, so long as the regulations adhere to constitutional limitations…

The regulations at issue [concern] licensing requirements; staffing rules; specified drug, equipment and laboratory availability; detailed record keeping and reporting duties; maintenance, safety and emergency policies; sterilization procedures; and design and construction standards.
As noted by the Washington Times, this opinion ignited a brushfire that quickly engulfed liberal America:
Liberals usually want to regulate everything that breathes, moves, burns, flows or produces. When it comes to abortion mills, however, the same leftists scream bloody murder – not against killing babies, but against daring to regulate the practice even for the mother’s safety. Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has drawn fire merely for saying his state’s Board of Health is allowed to regulate providers of first-trimester abortions…

Morality demands that women be protected from unhealthy practices of licensed abortionists, who after all are in business to make money and frequently cut corners. Pro-abortion militants are against abortuary oversight for fear that some clinics will be shut down, thus preventing mothers from terminating their pregnancies…
True to form, lefties at The Atlantic were much more concerned about the profitability of the abortion industry than about the safety of mothers and their babies. Nichole Allan accused Ken Cuccinelli of making an “end run on abortion” when Cuccinelli said that Virginia has the power to regulate abortion in the same way that it regulates other procedures at outpatient surgical clinics:
In 2001, Mother Jones ran a story about the rise of what abortion rights advocates call TRAP laws, short for Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers. The article, written by Barry Yeoman and titled “The Quiet War on Abortion,” detailed the anti-abortion movement’s shift from targeting the legality of the procedure to applying pressure on its providers…

If the [Board of Health] were to follow Cuccinelli’s advice, the state’s 21 abortion clinics would be subject to the same requirements as hospitals. In order to comply, they would have to undergo structural renovations and obtain staff members with new qualifications. The cost of these requirements would, Virginia abortion rights advocates estimate, put 17 of the state’s 21 clinics out of business.

“We predict it’s about $1.5 to $2 million per clinic in extra cost,” Keene said. “It’s just crazy. And the thing is, it’s really just designed to shut these places down. It has nothing to do with medical care.”
Maybe the folks at The Atlantic can be forgiven for their shortsightedness. This time last week, very few of us had any idea how dirty and unhealthy the abortion industry could be. The holocaust at Dr. Gosnell’s flea-ridden charnel house has opened millions of eyes. Because Gosnell was operating his business in a state dominated by militant pro-abortion politics in both political parties, Gosnell was free to subject his victims to filth, disease and death while state regulatory agencies deliberately turned a blind eye.

Now we know how dangerous and reckless the abortion industry can be. The decades-long laissez-faire approach to the abortion industry hurt women and their families in Pennsylvania irreparably.

Safe, Legal and Rare?


WARNING: Graphic content…

After generations of graphic and pervasive sex education, easy access to contraceptives, and free reproductive services for anyone who will accept them, the abortion industry still stinks as bad as it ever has:
A doctor whose abortion clinic was described as a filthy, foul-smelling “house of horrors” that was overlooked by regulators for years was charged Wednesday with murder, accused of delivering seven babies alive and then using scissors to kill them.
Here’s some info for the “legalization and government regulation always make it better” crowd:
In a nearly 300-page grand jury report filled with ghastly, stomach-turning detail, prosecutors said Pennsylvania regulators ignored complaints of barbaric conditions at Gosnell’s clinic, which catered to poor, immigrant and minority women in the city’s impoverished West Philadelphia section.

Prosecutors called the case a “complete regulatory collapse.”
If you can’t blame the guy for running a barbaric abortion business, maybe at least you’ll disapprove of his racism:
White women from the suburbs were ushered into a separate, slightly cleaner area because Gosnell believed they were more likely to file complaints, Williams said.
Or maybe you can blame him for his unbridled capitalist greed:
Prosecutors said Gosnell made millions of dollars over three decades performing thousands of dangerous abortions, many of them illegal late-term procedures. His clinic had no trained nurses or medical staff other than Gosnell, a family physician not certified in obstetrics or gynecology, prosecutors said.
A filthy, bloody, stinking capitalist:
At least two women died from the procedures, while scores more suffered perforated bowels, cervixes and uteruses, authorities said.
But the fetuses were just clumps of cells… Right?
He “induced labor, forced the live birth of viable babies in the sixth, seventh, eighth month of pregnancy and then killed those babies by cutting into the back of the neck with scissors and severing their spinal cord,” District Attorney Seth Williams said.
Gosnell referred to it as “snipping,” prosecutors said.

Prosecutors estimated Gosnell ended hundreds of pregnancies by cutting the spinal cords, but they said they couldn’t prosecute more cases because he destroyed files.
Did I forget to mention that Dr Snippy is a filthy capitalist pig?
Gosnell didn’t advertise, but word got around. Women came from across the city, state and region for illegal late-term abortions, authorities said. They paid $325 for first-trimester abortions and $1,600 to $3,000 for abortions up to 30 weeks. The clinic took in $10,000 to $15,000 a day, authorities said.
Ladies seeking an abortion from Dr. Snippy probably could have done better in a back alley. Or at home with a coat hanger:
Prosecutors said the place reeked of cat urine because of the animals that were allowed to roam freely, furniture and blankets were stained with blood, instruments were not properly sterilized, and disposable medical supplies were used over and over.
Dr. Gosnell is a truly evil man:
Few if any of the sedated patients knew their babies had been delivered alive and then killed, prosecutors said. Many were first-time mothers who were told they were 24 weeks pregnant, even if they were much further along, authorities said.

Prosecutors said Gosnell falsified the ultrasound examinations that determine how far along a pregnancy is, teaching his staff to hold the probe in such a way that the fetus would look smaller.

Gosnell sometimes joked about the babies, saying one was so large he could “walk me to the bus stop,” according to the report.
Another snippet for statists:
State regulators ignored complaints about Gosnell and the 46 lawsuits filed against him, and made just five annual inspections, most satisfactory, since the clinic opened in 1979, authorities said. The inspections stopped completely in 1993 because of what prosecutors said was the pro-abortion rights attitude that set in after Democratic Gov. Robert Casey, an abortion foe, left office.
Unfortunately, this case was not brought to light as a result of concerns about the mothers and their babies:
Authorities raided Gosnell’s clinic early last year in search of drug violations and stumbled upon “a house of horrors,” Williams said. Bags and bottles holding aborted fetuses “were scattered throughout the building,” the district attorney said. “There were jars, lining shelves, with severed feet that he kept for no medical purpose.”
To those who have the audacity to say that this case shows that “the system is working,” instance, let us point out that “the system” didn’t catch up with this murderer intentionally. The system literally stumbled over stumbled over his victims.


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*Disclaimer: The views expressed in the post reflect the opinions of the author, RightKlik.