Stop Yelling and Pay Attention: The grassroots "Left" and "Right" are saying the same thing!

Posted by: Wesley Messamore


"At a time when Americans seem more divided than at any point since the Civil War, two grassroots protest movements, the Tea Parties and Occupy Wall Street protests, signal the possibility of a major realignment in American politics along the lines of massive shared opposition to the domineering financial sector and its corrupt counterparts in government…"

Read the entire article at The Silver Underground.

24 comments:

  1. I read the article, but couldn't comment on it.

    The article's author says:

    "But one thing is clear, and that is this: the now-not-so-silent majorities on both sides of the partisan divide are moving in the same direction, toward completely accepting and internalizing their distrust and disdain for the financial sector and its grip on power in this country. The next step is to have a conversation, a real conversation. No screaming. No yelling. No accusations. No preconceived suspicions of the worst in each others’ motives. The next step is a conversation about how deep this problem goes, the exact nature of its causes, and the precise policies that will effectively solve the problem and reform our broken economic and political system."
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    Hogwash. I do not believe for one second that the leftists have anything to say that I need to hear, and I hope they feel the same way about me. This isn't time for hand-holding and long conversations over coffee. These people are trying to destroy Capitalism and bring Socialism onto our soil. That's what they do. That's what they want.

    What do I possibly have to say to them, other than "You can kiss my ass, you freakshow hippie wanna-be commies who sorely need to learn bathing techniques." I know they feel the same way, and if they play the whole, "Oh, why can't we all just get along?" card, do not trust it.

    The time for touchy-feely moderation and compromise is over. Have you not seen the OWS protests? Do you honestly think any of those rabid America-hating Socialists want to have a conversation with you?

    Good luck with that. I myself have no illusions or desires to "hug it out" with them. They have made their purpose crystal clear.

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  2. What gibberish. The so called "financial sector" doesn't write legislation. What heaven on earth it would be if they did. The Tea Party and the putrid vermin who populate this idiotic street carnival called "Occupy" have nothing in common.

    I like Wes, but he's infected with Ron Paul. Once someone gets infected with the Ron Paul virus, their critical thinking skills fly right out the window.

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  3. I was down hanging around with Occupy DC. Believe me, we are not saying the same things. We are both angry at the bailouts, but for very different reasons.

    They want more gov't spending, not less. They want that money spent on them.

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  4. And that really is the key right there... the two sides agree about the problem, but are miles apart on the solution. So many (though not all) of the OWS protesters are calling for MORE government instead of less.

    But that mistake should be so easy to explain to them. Do they honestly think that the people in power are ever going to use it to benefit the rest of us? The thing is, you won't be able to explain that to them if you're calling them dirty hippies.

    At least we have something pretty major in common: we both oppose bailouts and corporate welfare. We both see the machinations of the financial elite as detrimental to our nation's economy and even freedom. Use that common ground to change some minds.

    One commentator above said now is not the time for hand holding and compromise. I'm not telling you to compromise. I never said that. I'm telling you to use the common ground you have with these folks to share your solution with them. I'm telling you not to be rude about it, and they might just listen to you.

    Finally, I find it interesting that I've been criticized in the same thread for both wanting to compromise, and for being too uncompromisingly "infected" with the ideas of one Congressman Ron Paul...

    If the first commentator really believes that now is not the time for yielding even an inch to the statism enveloping this country, he will disagree with Chuck's comment, and stand up for the only GOP presidential contender who we can be certain will not compromise.

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  5. To the above astute comments I can only add, and the words are not mine but they are quite insightful... "...government exists largely to
    advance the interests of one class over another."

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  6. "If the first commentator really believes that now is not the time for yielding even an inch to the statism enveloping this country, he will disagree with Chuck's comment, and stand up for the only GOP presidential contender who we can be certain will not compromise. "

    I like you, Wes, but I can't let you get away with that. Statists are who make up the "occupy" movement. Seriously, man. Are you really this obtuse? Nazis, Communists, Government union gangs and just reglar' ole' criminals have thrown in with this pack of termites.

    You're smarter than this.

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  7. "the two sides agree about the problem"

    Really? Just who the hell are the "two sides"? I'm willing to grant some artistic license where it's due, but shitfuckfire, son. You're asking too much.

    People opposed to runaway spending aren't in agreement with parasites who want their bills payed by others.

    Best,
    Chuck.

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  8. Nice pitch for Ron Paul on the way out, by the way. Quite the artful pitch.

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  9. "and stand up for the only GOP presidential contender who we can be certain will not compromise. "


    Not to pick on Wes, but the above statement is how holocausts are born. Will not compromise? Will not with whom? The rest of the representatives the people of this country voted for, of course.

    For want of a benevolent King, many otherwise intelligent people would scrap the last vestige of freedom they have. Smart people, too. Good people.

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  10. As the old saying goes, "Any similarity is purely coincidental."

    We do not believe in corporate welfare, but we also believe in free enterprise. They don't believe in corporate welfare, because they'd rather see those same tax dollars spent on them and, by the way, their FAVORED corporations - the ones they patronize or support. Don't let them take the focus off Solyndra, illegal immigrantion, Fast and Furious. This is a planned diversion.

    Tea Partiers are regular working class people who recognize that the only thing standing between them and prosperity is government. The Occupiers are radicals, losers, malcontents, dependents, and union thugs. Violence and hatred are the undercurrent of all their rhetoric.

    Just give the Occupiers enough rope to hang themselves. Their bowel movement will run out of gas. They certainly can't turn this into any legislation nor can they marshall forces and maintain momentum until next November. They are a joke, so treat them like one. Laugh at them. Ridicule them. Demonstrate their hypocrisy and impotence.

    Focus on campaigning for local political races in contested districts. Look for the good in all our potential candidates and underscore the evil of the Demon Rats. Getting the Obamanation out of office is job one.

    "When the Nazis and the Communists are fighting in the streets, you don't choose sides. You pray for an asteroid." - Kate McMillan

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  11. "Their bowel movement will run out of gas."

    We should all be so fortunate as they.

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  12. Flea Party Parasites are not like Tea Party Patriots. The left manufactured the Flea Baggers/Beggers so that their "reasonable" Van Jones or BHO mouthpiece can grab the "moderate" position as compared to the extremists left Flea Party aka OWS crowd.

    The reason the left had to demonize the Tea Party is because the conservative stance of the Tea Party would reveal the "reasonable moderate" leftists as extremists.

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    Nick - "Violence and hatred are the undercurrent of all their rhetoric."

    Have you read the comments written here by these fine 'patriots?' Remember, these 'patriots' are hysterically ranting and raving about people of USA!

    Ema Nymton
    ~@:o?
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  14. I read the article and I will comment on it..
    I feel it was very accurate! But, for example, "both sides of the partisan divide are moving in the same direction" I would say "are moving in a similar direction"... Because the reasons for both protest are based on the same grievances. The disagreement is about the origin and the answer to "IT"! Govt is not the answer, Govt is the problem!
    Although I agree also with ecc102 to some extent about compromise, I think there is a misinterpretation about who you feel we can have an understanding with. Not the Liberal media and Democrats, but with those that share our disgust.
    The left are the last to compromise in most instances... But fist to accuse the right of unwilling to compromise!
    "Nice pitch for Ron Paul on the way out.." Pitch?! Who brought him up in the place?
    Here's a Video for the "Cain bots"...

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  15. @Wes,

    I said what I said simply because I have learned the lesson of 'how many times will I let the family dog bite me before I get rid of it'? Meaning, each time I have approached the left in the hopes of having rational and reasonable dialogue, I am met with vitriol and condescension. So....screw 'em.

    The lines are being drawn, Wes, like it or not. I do not believe for one second tat we Conservatives or Libertarians started this fight. It came about due to liberal arrogance and their Socialist desires. Unfortunately for them all, there are some of us who will never bow or abdicate our Constitutional freedoms so we can become part of the collective.

    Some of us do not vilify financial or commercial success. Some of us do not hate folks who believe that hard work and sweat result in good fortune. Some of us do not believe in "racial disadvantages" or the liberal-imposed victimhood of American minorities. Some of us detest hyphenating their American status. Some of us believe in a strong military, period. Some of us refuse to behave like animals and vagrants all in the name of Free Speech. Some of us actually treat their elders with respect and we bathe more than once a week.

    The liberals, the Socialists, the progressives, the anarchists, etc, etc, have nothing to say to me that I need to hear. I have more than heard their voices. Now it is time for them to feel mine.

    I didn't start this. They did. When you poke the sleeping bear, you better be prepared to get bit.

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  16. Now Brakabama is actively behind these vermin. He is creating a brown shirt army.

    And supposed "libertarians" scream that Mitt Romney's belt doesn't match his shoes.

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  17. And something about Herman Cain and Pizza.

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  18. Pitch?! Who brought him up in the place?"

    Who cares?

    "and stand up for the only GOP presidential contender who we can be certain will not compromise."

    I'm able to read and understand what people write, John. Are you? You aren't really saying Wes was misunderstood are you?

    I like Ron Paul as a person, but I don't see him as a savior.

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  19. "I'm able to read and understand what people write, John. Are you? You aren't really saying Wes was misunderstood are you?"
    Then why ask me what I'm saying?!
    Critic or critical thinker...

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    OP - "... massive shared opposition to the domineering financial sector and its corrupt counterparts in government…"

    Super Patriots (ecc102/John/Nick et al) will actively work against USA!

    "The liberals, the Socialists, the progressives, the anarchists, etc, etc, have nothing to say to me that I need to hear. I have more than heard their voices. Now it is time for them to feel mine."

    Is there anything the 'super patriots will not do to blame Mr Obama for their failed lives? One will not be surprised when the 'super patriots' join with Iran to undermine POTUS and USA.

    It is a good thing this group of super patriots just whine and snivel here.

    Ema Nymton
    ~@:o?
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  21. "The solutions are simple; "

    A gutless evasion. Predictable. Sad.

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    Now Chuckie poo poo,

    It is difficult for you stay focused. Try this (simple answer; yes or no):

    - Are you for paying for what get? Or are you one of the getting something for nothing crowd (rich)?

    - Are you for government corporate welfare?

    Ema Nymton
    ~@:o?
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  23. I haven't seen this much paranoia since before the wall came down.

    Those that think any of the current crop of GOP 'contenders' can or will do anything to make your lives better or even different than what Obama is currently doing, you are dreaming and drinking the GOP kool-aid.

    Seriously, HOW has the new healthcare law affected YOUR life, especially since most of it doesn't take effect until 2014.

    Why should the government, ie taxpayers, pay for Wall Street to continue to make money for itself, yet fight a slight tax increase to pay for a deficit it helped to create?

    Why hasn't anyone on the right figured out that the lack of adequate funding of education, both primary, secondary, and university level is the main driver why the American economy is losing to other countries, which by the way, make education a priority. When education is a right, not a privilege, then we might have a chance in the 21st century globalized economy.

    Show me a GOP contender that has plans for any of this besides putting their heads in the sand and just repeating "Obama is bad!"

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