Collectivist Message...

By the Left Coast Rebel

...spotted on a San Diego County-owned vehicle today here in the People's Republic of Kalifornia:


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Has anyone here read Ayn Rand's The Anthem? If so, this seemingly benign little logo adorning San Diego County "public" vehicles should send a cold-as-ice shiver up and down your spine.

If this "innocent" little logo doesn't elicit this response you should consider moving to Cuba and I mourn the fact that after decades and generations of dumbed-down media, academia and our culture at large, you have no clue what America used to stand for and what it should had we not betrayed our generation and future generations by lazily giving up our liberty for security or the "public good", or "fairness" or "diversity" or any other collectivist notion that betrays our Founder's vision for this Greatest Experiment in Freedom (America) that the world had ever seen.

Thoughts?

15 comments:

  1. Tim - Anthem was the first Rand novelette I read. It was given to me by my 10'th grade literature teacher who very well could have been Dominique Francon. Both in mind and body... But I digress.

    Your choice of Anthem to bring the point home is spot on.

    For anyone who hasn't read Anthem... You should.

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  2. How is the public good not the noblest motive for government? Sure, we can disagree about what the supposed public good is, but what else is government for if not the public good? What other valid reason does it even have to exist?

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  3. Chuck - The questions you pose are valid. They have been asked throughout time in one form or another.

    The issue as I view it is this, how does government maintains the maximum liberty for the individual while at the same time insuring the public safety and welfare. As well as maintaining a national infrastructures that all citizens benefit from.

    These are the million dollar issues {questions} that our politically polarized society is failing to address.

    There are no EASY answers. But until the nation begins ti focus on these issues and deate them in an honest and emotion free forum we will remain stuck in what is in effect neutral.

    Anthem I believe, if properly understood, lead one to what is my admittedly individualistic opinion.

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  4. Exactly, Les. Our society was founded on the notion and belief that individual happiness and the pursuit of it was the nobles motive, not some vague notion of "public good".

    "Public good" is what I believed Rand would call an anti-theme (or anti-idea). Public good to a collectivist means complete subservience. Public good to a an authoritarian means dictating ever aspect of my life.

    That's why it is so spooky, Chuck. You are a lot different "conservative" than both Les and I.

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  5. I wish I could debate this further with both of you but I have to write a 4-page paper in the next 1-1/2 hours then head to campus :(. I'll check in later.

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  6. BTW, Les, The Anthem was also the first Rand piece that I was introduced to, I'll never forget it. The link above is the full text of the novelette.

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  7. One more thing -- the purpose of the government is to protect liberty and property; to operate a judicial system that does these things; to defend the nation and its borders; to operate some sort of basic law enforcement; to operate highways and roads (and a few other limited things).

    That's it. Not pretty with how far we have gotten away from that, is it?

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  8. "That's why it is so spooky, Chuck. You are a lot different "conservative" than both Les and I. "

    Probably not as much as you might think. The only legitimate role of government is to do the will of those who created it and give it permission to exist. I see different problems than you do. Government should only act in the interest of the public good and never the individual good. As members of the public, everyone is the same before the law. Government has gotten away from that, though. Government DOESN'T treat individuals equally because it sees individuals of varying value. It's an outgrowth of this race,class gender bullshit that has taken root in almost every sector of society.

    I disagree with your analysis. That's all. I seriously doubt you and I differ much on what we want government to look like. It's our compass readings that are different. You and I see this country being in very different places. We have the same destination, I just think you are misreading the map. We aren't where you think we are.

    "the purpose of the government is to protect liberty and property; to operate a judicial system that does these things; to defend the nation and its borders; to operate some sort of basic law enforcement; to operate highways and roads (and a few other limited things)."

    To you and me, that's true; but it's not just our government. It's everybody's. That said, liberty and property and justice are all under the umbrella of public good. If the sticker said public welfare, or public assistance, I think your objection to it would have a little more intellectual meat on it's bones. Short of that, I think it's misplaced.

    Pro liberty people of every stripe would have a lot more influence if we quit talking in terms of injustice when describing the current state of affairs. We're the ones with the good news. We're the ones with the solutions. Instead, we focus too much on problems. Persuasion is our only weapon, but we have so much persuasive stuff at our disposal. We can do better.

    I was about to write
    "we are the ones we've been waiting for", but that would be a bridge too far. hehe

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  9. "how does government maintains the maximum liberty for the individual while at the same time insuring the public safety and welfare."

    There is no fault to be found in that statement. Especially the maximum liberty part. Thing is, liberty and license often get blurred. One of my problems with the almost anarchist wing of the libertarian movement is it's refusal to even accept the notion that there is a legitimate distinction to be found between virtue and vice. The presumption seems to be that the absence of government in any situation is a de facto "good" regardless of the situation. It only works on paper.

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  10. Tim - Being the more diplomatic of the two I think I'll let you handle the rebuttal.

    Suffice it to say Chuck IMHO I believe it is you that is misreading the map.

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  11. But why say that without demonstrating that there is any substance underlying what you claim you think.? What's the point? I'm happy to be shown that I'm wrong. I'm in the debt of anyone who corrects me, but just saying someone is wrong doesn't make them wrong. It's just wind.

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  12. Chuck - Well, I said what I think quite succinctly and concisely when I initially framed my thoughts. Which you just clarified your understanding of.

    Perhaps we are not as far removed as once thought.

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  13. The difference between liberty and tyranny is dosage.

    I believe it could also be said that "public good" has been used as justification for many evil and violent ends against those without voice or power.

    Noone speaks for the public good but many claim to. Everyone can speak for themselves, but rarely does anyone speak for me.

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  14. Hi there from Portugal. Anthem was also my first contact with Rand, a few days before I took on Atlas.
    Things over here in Europe, in specially in the Socialist south are going from bad to worse to nightmarish, all media and now even the educational system are controlled by the leftist, PC mob. I am hoping O'Bama doesn't get a second term, or you guys will be in deepest shite as well.

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  15. "I believe it could also be said that "public good" has been used as justification for many evil and violent ends against those without voice or power."

    I would go further and say that it ALWAYS is. No tyranny is peddled as such and never has been. Hitler was a very benevolent guy in his rhetoric. He stood up for the little guy against oppressors. It is always thus. That, however, doesn't somehow invalidate the existence of public good. Our founders understood this. That is why the Constitution was written the way it was. What's funny is, the original would be better for everyone currently living in this country than the current version.

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