South California? Is Southern California Secession from the State of California Possible?



By the Left Coast Rebel

Secession is a possibility, even if remotely so. It would involve so-called "red" counties such as Orange, San Diego (where I live), King, Mariposa and eight other counties breaking off from the state, forming so-called South California.

The idea is being floated by Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone (good for him).

Many of us So-CAl business owners/tax payers/limited government proponents think (rightfully so) that Sacramento is broken beyond repair. Secession from California and formation of a "South California" would undoubtedly create a highly prosperous wealth-creating Hong Kong-esque hub set free from the choking tentacles of the progressive wealth-spreaders, welfare-state metropolis's of Sacramento, San Francisco and Los Angeles.


South California secession would also create another interesting dynamic. Because of the demographics of the 12 counties discussed, a permanent "purplish" swing state in electoral-college politics would be created, perhaps changing the nature of presidential politics forever -- if a significant chunk of California's electoral college votes were in play every presidential cycle.

It's a super long shot but interesting to contemplate nonetheless.

Hat-tip Leslie Eastman/Temple of Mut. Cross posted to Proof Positive.

Updated: There's an unscientific poll up at the L.A./CBS affiliate carrying this story. The poll asks, "South California: politics as usual or time to split?"

The results aren't even remotely close:



Updated x2: Warplanner, also a California resident, responds in the comments:

This is an interesting proposition and, for historical context, there was a movement on the eve of World War II where a number of like-minded counties in north Northern California wanted to secede from California and re-enter as the 51st state. In reading the link, you will find they were considerably more liberal than there more southerly counterparts.

It would be interesting and welcome to separate ourselves form the liberal cesspool of San Francisco and their hand maidens in Sacramento. Hell. it'd be freaking marvelous!

..where do I sign?
Count Warplanner in the 88% of poll respondents above saying "aye" to secession.

Updated x3: Just got this moving comment from a reader on LCR's Facebook page. Her name is Caroline and she lives in New England:
One might think that expelling that section of the nation might be an idea. Expulsion would be a good thing.... so far as I understand California politics it seems a lot of the lunacy comes from that region.

Sacramento may be where the legislation takes place, but is it true that it is a representative legislature... and some bulk of the population is in Southern CA?

As to Southern California being some moneymaking paradise, one wonders about that as well. It is awash in illegals as I understand it, whose depredations upon "the system" are actively encouraged and sheltered by Southern Californian culture....and it is the land of materialistic con-artistry with a paper thin veneer of pop enlightenment overlaid upon some few who would pretend to be other than parasites looking for a host.

Expulsion might be hard to enact.. but letting the goobers "secede".. out of the United States.. not just out of CA.... might be a great blessing... so long as we sealed our borders against them.
Wow: Southern Californian culture (is) the land of materialistic con-artistry with a paper thin veneer of pop enlightenment overlaid upon some few who would pretend to be other than parasites looking for a host.

That is absolutely quotable and unfortunately oh-so true.

8 comments:

  1. Thanks for the hat-tip; it is really appreciated. I am heartened by the dramatic results on this poll. I suspect average Californians are sick of sending all the tax dollars to the bullies in Sacramento. It would be fabulous to have discussion, and get people engaged for real change on the grassroots level.

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  2. This is an interesting proposition and, for historical context, there was a movement on the eve of World War II where a number of like-minded counties in north Northern California wanted to secede from California and re-enter as the 51st state. In reading the link, you will find they were considerably more liberal than there more southerly counterparts.

    It would be interesting and welcome to separate ourselves form the liberal cesspool of San Francisco and their hand maidens in Sacramento. Hell. it'd be freaking marvelous!

    ..where do I sign?

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  3. ..er, that should have read "..considerably more libertarian.." What on earth was I thinking?

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  4. We should have ceeded Cali to Mexico after Clinton got elected in 92. That is what I said then. If it were 2 left wing states, wanting to split for better representation, it would be not only accepted, but promoted. However adding another "Red State" or allowing the formation of a "red nation" will never happen. Besides, who would pay for the libtard social programs and sactuary cities if the 'red counties' left?

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  5. The best thing businesses and pro-liberty folks can do at this point is leave...which they are in droves.

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  6. FYI, I voted "yes" in the poll, too. And I'm from Northern CA.

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  7. An idea who's time has come and it's even been proposed that AZ should split too.

    Heck, Cali should split into 3 states, AZ 2, Texas 4 or 5 and NYC should be a state on it's own. And the list could go on.

    Smaller states would be good for us all in so many ways.

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  8. I seceded from San Diego, SoCal back in 1975. Haven't been back to the state since, except for a brief sojourn through the NW corner via Susanville on the way to Reno, NV year before last. Best move we ever made.

    Mike G.

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